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Američtí vojáci jsou v Iráku na dně
Morálka Američanů v Iráku klesá na pomyslné dno. Stále víc jich píše dopisy svým zastupitelům do Kongresu a žádají jediné - letenku domů. Americký tisk uvádí, že si vojáci stěžují před každým, kdo je ochoten naslouchat. Daň si vybírá dlouhé nasazení, vedro, nejistota a stupňující se útoky.
Litujeme, ale tato diskuse byla uzavřena a již do ní nelze vkládat nové příspěvky.
Děkujeme za pochopení.
Děkujeme za pochopení.
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14. 7. 2003 9:30
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1. "Iraq has a useable chemical and biological weapons capability which has included recent production of chemical and biological agents."
No evidence of Iraq's useable capability has been found in terms of manufacturing plants, bombs, rockets or actual chemical or biological agents, nor any sign of recent production.
A mysterious truck has been found which the CIA says is a mobile biological facility but this has not been accepted by all experts.
2. "Saddam continues to attach great importance to the possession of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles... He is determined to retain these capabilities."
He may well have attached great importance to the possession of such weapons but none has been found. The meaning of the word "capability" is now key to this.
If the US and UK governments can show that Iraq maintained an active expertise, amounting to a "programme", they will claim their case has been made that Iraq violated UN resolutions.
3. "Iraq can deliver chemical and biological agents using an extensive range of shells, bombs, sprayers and missiles."
Nothing major has been found so far. There was one aircraft adapted with a sprayer but its capability was small.
4. "Iraq continues to work on developing nuclear weapons... Uranium has been sought from Africa."
The UN watchdog the IAEA said there was no evidence for this up to the start of the war and none has been found since. It is possible, though, that a case could be made from a shopping list of items needed for such a programme.
These include vacuum pumps, magnets, winding and balancing machines - all listed in the British dossier. No details about these purchasing attempts have been provided.
A claim that aluminium tubes were sought for this process was not wholly accepted by the British assessment though it was by the American and has subsequently not been proved.
The uranium claim is currently under question, though the British Government stands by its allegation.
5. "Iraq possesses extended-range versions of the Scud ballistic missile."
No Scuds have been found. The British said Iraq might have up to 20, the CIA said up to 12.
6. "Iraq's current military planning specifically envisages the use of chemical and biological weapons."
That may have been the case but direct evidence from serving Iraqi officers will be needed to prove it.
7. "The Iraqi military are able to deploy these weapons (chemical and biological) within 45 minutes of a decision to do so."
The 45 minute claim is currently under question. It is said to come from "a single source" probably a defector or Iraqi officer. It has not been proven.
8. "Iraq... is already taking steps to conceal and disperse sensitive equipment."
This is a focus of the current American and British investigation being carried out in Iraq by the Iraq Survey Group. One Iraqi scientist has come forward to say that he hid blueprints of centrifuges under his roses but that was in 1991.
If a pattern of concealment can be established, it would add to the credibility of the allegations that Iraq wanted to defy the UN.
9. "Iraq's chemical, biological, nuclear and ballistic missile programme are well funded."
Evidence will be needed from serving Iraqi officials backed up by documents. Again, if a pattern of funding can be established, a case against Iraq could be made but if the actual programmes did not exist, was the funding of much use and in any case, how much was it?
President Bush and Prime Minister Blair will be meeting in Washington later this week when they will discuss their strategy to justify the claims.
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13. 7. 2003 21:02
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BBC, Friday, 11 July, 2003, 13:39 GMT 14:39 UK : US 'needs help in Iraq' >>>The Bush administration is coming under growing domestic pressure over its Iraq strategy amid continuing attacks on US forces in the country. The US Senate has voted unanimously to urge President George W Bush to consider asking Nato and the United Nations for help in rebuilding Iraq. The non-binding resolution said that while it was in the interests of the United States to remain engaged in Iraq, conditions there posed a serious threat to American troops. Public opinion in the US appears to reflect this disquiet, with polls showing a marked decline in support for the Bush administration's policy on Iraq. The Senate vote came after General Tommy Franks, until recently at the helm of US-led coalition forces in Iraq, warned that American forces might have to remain in the country far longer than anticipated. General Franks said attacks on US soldiers, which have killed more than 30 since the war was declared over, were occurring at a rate of 10 to 25 a day. Friday saw the US pull most of its troops out of a police station in the Iraqi town of Falluja, about 50 kilometres (30 miles) west of the capital Baghdad, a day after protests at the continued US military presence there. An American military spokesman said about six soldiers would remain at the station to support the new police force in the town, where there have been frequent clashes between Iraqis and US forces. Iraqi police officers had threatened to resign if the Americans did not leave the station, as they felt joint patrols with American forces placed them at risk of attack. Overnight, a series of three mortar strikes were launched on an American base in the town of Ramadi, 100 kilometres (60 miles) west of Baghdad, although there were no injuries reported. And the US military said two Iraqi civilians were wounded in crossfire following a rocket-propelled grenade attack on a US patrol near Baghdad airport. ....... The Democrats urged Mr Bush to mend fences with France and Germany - key Nato members who were firmly opposed to the war. Senator John Kerry, who hopes to challenge Mr Bush for the presidency next year, said: "We now know that the administration went to war without a thorough plan to win the peace. "It is time to face that truth and change course, to share the post-war burden internationally for the sake of our country." Senator Carl Levin, leading Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said it was "a mystery" why the Bush administration had not made a formal request for Nato forces in Iraq. He expressed the hope that soldiers wearing Nato insignia would not be targeted in Iraq with the same ferocity as their American counterparts. .........
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13. 7. 2003 16:58
Pane Jantar:
Co takhle české jednotky v Iráku? Měli by kluci také "pozdechat:?
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Jantar
14. 7. 2003 23:44
Re: Pane Jantar:
to určitě ne. Naši tam nešli vraždit lidi. Američani jo.
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za morem
16. 7. 2003 22:39
Re: 212 je málo
Jantar je hnup.Takovych hnupu jako Jantar je podle meho odhadu v tom vasem kocourkove vic nez 50%.Zvanite o necem ,o cem nemate ani poneti, hlavy dubovy.
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Daniela Hanušová-Henzlová
11. 7. 2003 19:05
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11. 7. 2003 17:44
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The ush administration is coming under growing domestic pressure over its Iraq strategy amid continuing attacks on US forces in the country.
The US Senate has voted unanimously to urge President George W ush to consider asking Nato and the United Nations for help in rebuilding Iraq.
The non-binding resolution said that while it was in the interests of the United States to remain engaged in Iraq, conditions there posed a serious threat to American troops.
Public opinion in the US appears to reflect this disquiet, with polls showing a marked decline in support for the ush administration's policy on Iraq.
The Senate vote came after General Tommy Franks, until recently at the helm of US-led coalition forces in Iraq, warned that American forces might have to remain in the country far longer than anticipated.
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11. 7. 2003 5:08
Parafráze na vtip od "Jardy"
Víte jaký je rozdíl mezi kulturou co se vyvine na jogurtu za 14 dní a kulturou v ČR? Žádný. Obě jsou to plísně.
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Jantar
14. 7. 2003 23:46
Re: Parafráze na vtip od
To jedobrý. Máme alespoň něco. V USA se nevyvinulo ani to.
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11. 7. 2003 1:00
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..... It is a complex, messy and badly defined battlefield that is driving the Americans ever further from the very people they are supposed to be liberating, and sapping morale at the same time. "I don't mind doing my duty. That's why I signed up," Sergeant Todd Lewis said. "But the problem is I don't know how long I'm going to have to do it. I was married two years ago, and I've only seen my wife for six months in that time. "We usually know how long we're going to be away, but the most our bosses are telling us now is 'We'll try to have you home before Christmas'. I don't think they really know what they're doing. I certainly don't," he said. ..... "First they said we'd be in and out as quickly as possible," said Sergeant Lewis. "Now they're saying that we'll be here for as long as it takes to establish freedom and democracy. The longer I'm here, the less sure I am that it will happen."
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blackshadow
11. 7. 2003 0:13
co doopravdy rekl Franks
"U.S. troops would probably remain in Iraq until a new government was elected, although the number of troops may be reduced next year. I anticipate that we will be involved in Iraq in the future. ... I don't know whether that means two years or four years," Franks said.
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11. 7. 2003 0:55
Re: co doopravdy rekl Franks....?
General Franks told the US Congress that he believed troops would remain in Iraq for some years. "Whether that means two years or four years, I don't know," he said in testimony ahead of his retirement from the military. General Franks also suggested that Washington would have to keep around 150,000 troops in Iraq for the foreseeable future.
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11. 7. 2003 0:04
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9 July: A soldier (Fourth Infantry Divsion) dies of a gunshot wound in a 'non combat incident' in Balad 9 July: A soldier (Fourth Infantry Division) dies and another is wounded in a grenade attack on thier convoy in Baghdad 9 July: A soldier (Third Corps Support Command) is killed by small arms fire when a convoy is ambushed near Al Mahmudiyah 7 July: A soldier (101st Airborne Division) dies from gunshot wounds in a 'non combat incident' in Balad. 7 July: A soldier is killed when an explosive device strikes his vehicle while on patrol in Kadhimyah, Baghdad. 6 July: A soldier (First Armoured Division) is killed during a firefight between his platoon and Iraqi gunmen in the Ad Hamiyah area of Baghdad. 6 July: A soldier (First Armoured Division) dies after being shot in the head on the Baghdad University campus. 3 July: A soldier (First Armoured Division) is killed in Baghdad when a Bradley vehicle comes under sniper fire. 3 July: A soldier (First Armoured Division) dies of gunshot wounds in a "non-combat" related incident. 2 July: A Marine (First Expeditionary Force) dies and three are injured while conducting mine clearing operations in Karbala. 2 July: A US soldier dies from wounds received when his convoy was hit by an improvised explosive device in Baghdad the previous day. 28 June: The remains of two soldiers missing since 25th June are recovered 20 miles outside Baghdad. 27 June: One soldier (First Armoured Division) killed and four injured in a grenade attack in the Thawra area of Baghdad. 26 June: One soldier (First Marine Expeditionary Force) killed in ambush while investigating a car theft in An Najaf. 26 June: One special forces soldier killed and eight injured in a 'hostile fire' incident in south-west Baghdad. 25 June: One soldier (First Marine Expeditionary Force) killed and two are injured when their armoured vehicle overturns as they rush to help colleagues under fire. 24 June: Soldier (First Armoured Division) dies in a "non-combat incident". No details given. 22 June: One soldier (First Armoured Division) killed and one injured in a grenade attack on a military convoy south of Baghdad, in Khan Azad. 19 June: One soldier (804th Medical Brigade) killed and two injured in an RPG attack on a military ambulance in an area north of Camp Dogwood in the town of Iskandariya. 18 June: One soldier killed (First Armoured Division) and one wounded in a gun attack at a petrol distribution plant in Baghdad. 17 June: Soldier (First Armoured Division) mortally wounded by sniper in north-west Baghdad. 16 June: Soldier (First Marine Expeditionary Force) dies of "non-hostile gunshot wound" in An Najaf. 15 June: Soldier mortally wounded in "an apparent non-hostile incident" in the Taji area. No further details given. 13 June: One soldier (V Corps) dies and eight are injured in an armoured vehicle rollover accident 20 kilometres south of Asad Air Base. 13 June: Soldier drowns while swimming in lake near Falluja. 10 June: One paratrooper (82nd Airborne Division) killed and one injured in RPG attack in south-west Baghdad. 8 June: Soldier shot dead while manning a traffic control point in Qaim. 7 June: One soldier killed and four wounded in RPG and gun attack near Tikrit. 6 June: One soldier killed and two injured in a vehicle accident about 35 kilometres north of Baghdad. 6 June: Navy Seabee (serving with the First Marine Expeditionary Force) killed handling unexploded ordnance in Kut. 5 June: One soldier (101st Airborne Division) killed and five wounded in Falluja in an RPG attack. 2 June: Soldier (Fourth Infantry Division) mortally wounded in RPG and gun attack near Balad. 30 May: Three soldiers die as result of vehicle accident between Mosul and Tikrit. 29 May: Soldier "killed by hostile fire" while travelling on a main supply route. No further details. 27 May: Two soldiers killed and nine wounded in RPG and gun attack in Falluja. 26 May: Soldier drowns "after diving into an aqueduct" south of Kirkuk. 26 May: One soldier killed and three injured when their vehicles runs over mine or unexploded ordnance. No further details. 26 May: One soldier killed and two injured in a collision with a tractor. 26 May: One soldier (Third Armoured Cavalry Regiment) killed and one wounded in ambush on their convoy near Hadithah, about 193 km north-west of Baghdad. 25 May: One soldier killed and one injured in an apparent accidental blast at a former Iraqi munitions dump. 21 May: Soldier killed in vehicle accident near Baqubah. 19 May: All four crew members killed when Sea Knight helicopter crashes in the Shat Hilla Canal. One marine drowns while trying to rescue the crew. 19 May: One soldier killed in traffic accident near Safwan. 18 May: One soldier killed and one wounded in traffic accident near Samawa. 18 May: Soldier (Fourth Infantry Division) dies of "non-hostile gunshot wound". 17 May: One soldier killed and three injured while detonating unexploded ordnance in Baghdad. 14 May: One soldier killed and two injured in traffic accident near Irbil. 13 May: One soldier killed in accidental munitions explosion near Hilla. 12 May: Two soldiers killed in accidental munitions explosion. 9 May: Three soldiers killed and one injured in helicopter crash near Samarra. 8 May: Soldier killed by lone gunman in Baghdad. 4 May: Soldier dies in apparent suicide. 3 May: Soldier dies in apparent accidental shooting. 1 May: Soldier killed in traffic accident near Habbaniya.
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