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Teroristé po válce v Iráku ožili

Saúdská Arábie se stále vzpamatovává z atentátů v Rijádu, kde po útoku devíti sebevrahů zemřelo dalších 25 lidí, a už se objevila nová hrozba. Islámští radikálové chtějí zaútočit v Džiddě, tvrdí USA. Před hrozbou teroru spjatým s Al-Kajdou, který utlumila válka v Iráku, varovaly i další země.
Litujeme, ale tato diskuse byla uzavřena a již do ní nelze vkládat nové příspěvky.
Děkujeme za pochopení.

aa

18. 5. 2003 1:06
dalsi vyborny clanek
Soudruh redaktor Dvoracek je uvedomelym pracovnikem. Zasluhuje si obdiv sirokych mas proletariatu a vsech zastancu vedecke teorie Marx-Leninizmu.  Citat z jeho clanku: "Teroristé se připomínají nedlouho po skončení války proti Iráku, která měla zpřetrhat jejich údajné vazby s režimem diktátora Saddáma Husajna." soudruhu, spravne pouzivas taktiky marx-leninske teorie a praxe socialisticke zurnalistiky na dezorientovani nevdelanych ctenaru.  Doporucuji precist nejake fakta: >>>Rusko trenovalo Iracke spiony> CtiZde>     >>>Bililogicke zbrane v Iraku> CtiZde>  a take Zde>   >>>Supertajne teroristicke vycvikove stredisko v Iraku kde se ucili na fungijicim Boing 707 podrezavat hrdla pilotu stejne jako Sep 11 v NY> ctiZde>   take obrazek campu> Zde>     
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:-O)

18. 5. 2003 12:50
Re: dalsi vyborny clanek
Paul Harris and Martin Bright in London, Taji and Ed Helmore in New York Sunday May 11, 2003 >>>>US rivals turn on each other as weapons search draws a blank One key argument for war was the peril from weapons of mass destruction. Now top officials are worried by repeated failures to find the proof - and US intelligence agencies are engaged in a struggle to avoid the blame The Iraqi military base at Taji does not look like a place of global importance. It is a desolate expanse of bunkers and hangars surrounded by barbed wire and battered look-out posts. It is deserted apart from American sentries at the gate. Yet Taji, north of Baghdad, is the key to a furious debate. Where are Saddam's weapons of mass destruction? Was the war fought on a platform of lies? Taji was the only specific location singled out by Secretary of State Colin Powell in his address to the UN when he argued that evidence compiled by US intelligence proved the existence of an illegal weapons programme. 'This is one of 65 such facilities in Iraq,' Powell said. 'We know this one has housed chemical weapons.' But The Observer has learnt that Taji has drawn a blank. US sources say no such weapons were found when a search party scoured the base in late April. By then it had already been looted by local villagers. If Taji ever had any secrets, they are long gone. That is bad news for Britain and the United States. The pressure is building to find Saddam's hidden arsenal and time is running out. Last week the US flew 2,000 more experts into Iraq. The Iraq Survey Team will join 600 experts already there. Organisations in Iraq hunting for weapons now include teams from the US and British armies, the CIA, the FBI and the Defence Threat Reduction Agency. Yet at more than 110 sites checked so far they have found nothing conclusive. It has been an exercise in false alarms. Suspect white powder at Latifiyah was only explosives. Barrels of what was thought to be sarin and tabun nerve agents were pesticides. When a dozen US soldiers checked a suspect site and fell ill, it was because they had inhaled fertiliser fumes. Each setback ratchets up the political pressure. Infighting between government departments and intelligence agencies is becoming vicious on both sides of the Atlantic. Having fought a war to disarm Iraq of its terrible weapons, neither the US nor Britain can admit that Iraq never had them in the first place. The search for weapons of mass destruction cannot be allowed to fail. The search is especially vital for The Cabal. In the brave new world of post-11 September America, this tight group of analysts deep in the heart of the Pentagon has been the driving force behind the war in Iraq. Numbering no more than a dozen, The Cabal is part of the Office of Special Plans, a new intelligence agency which has taken on the CIA and won. Where the CIA dithered over Iraq, the OSP pressed on. Where the CIA doubted, the OSP was firm. It fought a battle royal over Iraq and George Bush came down on its side. The OSP is the brainchild of Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who set it up after the 2001 terrorist attacks. It was tasked with going over old ground on Iraq and showing that the CIA had overlooked the threat posed. But its rise has caused massive ructions in the normally secretive world of intelligence gathering. The OSP reports directly to Paul Wolfowitz, a leading hawk in the administration. They bypassed the CIA and the Pentagon's own Defence Intelligence Agency when it came to whispering in the President's ear. They argued a forceful case for war against Saddam before his weapons programmes came to fruition. More moderate voices in the CIA and DIA were drowned out. The result has been a flurry of leaks to the US press. One CIA official described The Cabal's members as 'crazed', on a 'mission from God'. But for the moment The Cabal and Rumsfeld's Pentagon have won and Powell's doveish State Department has lost. Tensions between the two are now in the open. 'Rumsfeld set up his own intelligence agency because he didn't like the intelligence he was getting,' said Larry Korb, director of national security studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. 'He doesn't like Powell's approach, a typical diplomat, too cautious.' Former CIA officials are caustic about the OSP. Unreliable and politically motivated, they say it has undermined decades of work by the CIA's trained spies and ignored the truth when it has contradicted its world view. 'Their methods are vicious,' said Vince Cannistraro, former CIA chief of counter-terrorism. 'The politicisation of intelligence is pandemic, and deliberate disinformation is being promoted. They choose the worst-case scenario on everything and so much of the information is fallacious.' But Cannistraro is retired. His attacks will not bother The Cabal, firmly 'in the loop' of Washington's movers and shakers. Yet, even among them, continued failure to find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq is a growing fear. The fallout from the war could bring them down. The warning was there in black and white. Citing 'intelligence' sources, Tony Blair produced an official dossier that concluded Iraq could fire its chemical or biological weapons within 45 minutes of an order to do so. It was a terrifying prospect and ramped up the pro-war argument when the dossier was produced last September. But cold analysis after the war tells a different story. Iraq was abandoned by the UN weapons inspectors, then bombed, invaded and finally brought under US and British military control. During that entire time the 'button' was never pressed on its weapons of mass destruction. Now both the pro-war party and the anti-war lobby want to know why. Can this mysterious lapse be explained or did the weapons never exist?
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ctenar

17. 5. 2003 11:53
a ted zas Maroko
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Jarda

17. 5. 2003 8:41
citat dne slava Honzykovi kosowskemu
Hrdinný boj iráckého lidu proti americkým okupantům nebude nikdy zapomenut.   ...protože já vždy pevně věřil, že ten boj dvou rovnocenných armád vyhraje ta, která stojí na stráži míru a demokracie   Blahoprejeme Honzykovi kosowskemu. Vyhral soutez o citat dne 16-5-03. Hura a slava mu  
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Jan

17. 5. 2003 12:02
Re: citat dne slava Honzykovi kosowskemu
Svatá prostoto, s jakým nedůvtipným hejnem prostým jakéhokoliv smyslu pro  ironii tu ztrácím čas! Tenhleten "my" Jarouš  je toho čítankovým příkladem.
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zalozak

17. 5. 2003 7:49
Vyvazene nasili ...
Sledujici tyto zpravy dochazim k zaveru ze i teroriste cti to ze vlna terrorismu ma svoje maximum ..  Jak jinak vysvetlit ze teroriste v SA (a jinde) v dobe valky v zemi s nimi nesouvisejici jaksi s utoky nespechali. Mozna si rikali ze kdyz pro zmenu terrorizuje svet USA tak oni si daji dovolenou. No to asi ne.  Spise si rikali ze USA dela docela dobrou proti USA propagandu samo tak proc jeste mrhat energii .. Nez me zase nejake "aa" cervene obvini ze vseho mozneho - jedno predeslani - teroristi patri na jedine misto a to pred popravci cetu. Jenze kdyby nebylo neustale snahy nekterych zemi rozsevat nenavist...tak by nebylo ani tech teroristu...  
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aa

17. 5. 2003 16:41
Re: Vyvazene nasili ...
soudruh zalozak>>>ses nejak moc "zalozenej">> kdo rozseva nenavist sou teroriste.. dokonce i Rusove je odsuzuji... jenom ty je ospravedlnujes. Co si zac? nejakej muslimskej prorok na leceni v Podebradech? To tam mate debatni krouzek profesoru - teroristu? Jenom si pis ty kraviny... stejne ty teroristy pochytame jednoho po druhem a pak posleme na Guantanamo. Podle toho co a jak pises, mozna jednoho dne tam budes i ty...
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Pilat

17. 5. 2003 4:09
Zniceni Bagdadu
je dalekosahle vetsi nez nam manipulovane sdelovaci prostredky ukazaly. Je to proste katastrofa, jakou nepreji ani sraeli. Tahle valka neprinesla svetu nic dobreho. Neuchranila nikoho od niceho jen nicila a zabijela. Smutne.
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Pilat

17. 5. 2003 4:00
příspěvek zrušen
(Příspěvek byl zrušen redakcí )
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aa

17. 5. 2003 4:25
Re: bodejd' by teroriste neozili
Soudruh Pilat>>>jo kdyzby nebylo americanu tak by si dneska psal svabachem anebo azbukou anebo spise byl spopolnenej jako menecenna rasa.... ale take mozna ne kdyz tvuj deda byl prislusnikem SS a pak pozdeji STB??
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Jan Jansky

16. 5. 2003 20:32
Nejde o nic jineho, nez o strach.
Strach z terorizmu je jedna velka nafouknuta bublina. Bublina, kterou nafukly USA a Izrael. Strach Izraelcu je celkem opravneny, protoze okradli a posleze uzavreli v ghetu narod, ktery diky sionisticke honbe za vlastnim statem dnes jiz neni schopen normalne fungovat a "terorismus" je jeho jedina cesta (bohuzel ne moc stastna) jak dat o sobe a svem utrpeni vedet. S USA je to jinak. Po zmanipulovanem 11/09/2001 se z terorismu stal vyhodny obchod. Lide se boji, jsou poslusni, prijimaji se kontroverzni a protiustavni zakony, media maji o cem informovat (na pravde vsak uz tolik nezalezi, hlavne ze je co na titulni stranu), zbrojarske firmy nemohou byt stastnejsi. Z 400 miliardoveho rozpoctoveho prebytku se stava 400 miliardovy nedostatek. Za jediny rok. Lidem je vse jedno, uveri. System se osvedcil a tak to pokracuje. Jedno fiktivni nepodlozene obvineni za druhym a je tu valka. A samozrejme dalsi strach z tech osklivych a smradlavych Arabu. V Iraku nejsou zadni teroriste. Co by tam delali? Smutnym historickym faktem zustava, ze za velkym poctem teroristickych utoku proti americkym cilum, ktere se odehraly od roku 1948 stali Izraelci a Mossad (napr. Lavonska afera). Casto byli chyceni pri cinu, byla prokazana jejich narodnost. Prevleceni za arabske extremisty. Jedinym cilem tohoto vsecho deni je snaha vzbudit v lidech strach a nenavist k Arabum. Dari se to.
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Harden

16. 5. 2003 20:51
Re: Nejde o nic jineho, nez o strach.
Ses tezce nemocnej clovek...
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aa

16. 5. 2003 20:23
oprava
OPRAVA >(Sorry prenosem na server se vsechno i hyperlinky domotavaji!!! )  >>>>>>>V Evrope se stalo modou ze pobudobe a luza zurive haze spinu na USA .  Zapominaji ale ze CSR vzniklo v USA (Pitsburgh 1918) a ze USA pomohla Evrope ve dvou svetovych valkach (ktere vlasne Evropa vyvolala)! Mistnim vladam zejmena ve Francii, Nemecku, Rusku se to hodi protoze to odpoutava pozornost od jejich neschopne politiky a ekonomie. Soudruhum je to take vhod protoze jim roste nadeje na znovu uchopeni moci. Soudruzi redaktori vytahujou informace ktere ktere se jim hodi na dezinformaci verejnosti a schvalne filtrujou informace ktere se nehodi jejich politickym cilum! Tady si precti neco co se v ceskem tisku rizenem komousema mozna nikdy nedovis:<<< <Bin Ladin je za bombovym utokem v Saudske Arabii> Klikni>             <<<<< Jak se Francouzske vlade nelibi obvineni tisku ze dodavali zbrane, nahradni dily pro vojenskou techniku, suroviny pro vyrobu ZHN a naposledy francouzske pasy pro Saddamovce>  Klikni>      <<<< Jako americane objevili v Iraku pojizdne fabriky na vyrobu ZHN> Klikni>   <<<< Jak byli objeveny masove hroby s tisicema obetma Saddamovho vrazdeni (povrazdil kolem 200 tis lidi povstani 1991- ZHN; celkem spusobil smrt vice nez 2 mil lidi v Iraku)> Klikni>        <<<<< Jak byli objeveny  v Bagdadu tajne dokumenty o tom ze Rusko skolilo Saddamovy spiony a take dodavali informace o USA> Klikni>      <<<<<O co slo a jde Francouzum a Rusum v Iraku?> Klikni>    <<<<<Jako Francouzy, Nemci a Rusove vedome podporovali Saddama a vyrobu ZHN>Klikni>        <<<<<Super tajny vycvikovy tabor pro zahranicne teroristy "Salman Pak" (Iraq) kde se ucili na plne fungujicim Boing 707 podrezavat hrdla posadky letadla stejne jako to udelali Sep 11 v NY> Klikni> 
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aa

16. 5. 2003 19:38
Teroriste
V Evrope se stalo modou ze pobudobe a luza zurive haze spinu na USA .  Zapominaji ale ze CSR vzniklo v USA (Pitsburgh 1918) a ze USA pomohla Evrope ve dvou svetovych valkach (ktere vlasne Evropa vyvolala)! Mistnim vladam zejmena ve Francii, Nemecku, Rusku se to hodi protoze to odpoutava pozornost od jejich neschopne politiky a ekonomie. Soudruhum je to take vhod protoze jim roste nadeje na znovu uchopeni moci. Soudruzi redaktori vytahujou informace ktere ktere se jim hodi na dezinformaci verejnosti a schvalne filtrujou informace ktere se nehodi jejich politickym cilum! Tady si precti neco co se v ceskem tisku rizenem komousema mozna nikdy nedovis:<<< <Bin Ladin je za bombovym utokem v Saudske Arabii> Klikni>         <<<<FBI zjistuje jestli jsou pravdive obvineni ze Saudska Arabie ignorovala varovani pred utokem a ze v minulosti nektere cleny vlady podporovali financne AlKajdu>Klikni>      <<<<< Jak se Francouzske vlade nelibi obvineni tisku ze dodavali zbrane, nahradni dily pro vojenskou techniku, suroviny pro vyrobu ZHN a naposledy francouzske pasy pro Saddamovce>  Klikni>      <<<< Jako americane objevili v Iraku pojizdne fabriky na vyrobu ZHN> Klikni>   <<<< Jak byli objeveny masove hroby s tisicema obetma Saddamovho vrazdeni (povrazdil kolem 200 tis lidi povstani 1991- ZHN; celkem spusobil smrt vice nez 2 mil lidi v Iraku)> Klikni>        <<<<< Jak byli objeveny  v Bagdadu tajne dokumenty o tom ze Rusko skolilo Saddamovy spiony a take dodavali informace o USA> Klikni>      <<<<<O co slo a jde Francouzum a Rusum v Iraku?> Klikni>    <<<<<Jako Francouzy, Nemci a Rusove vedome podporovali Saddama a vyrobu ZHN>Klikni>        <<<<<Super tajny vycvikovy tabor pro zahranicne teroristy "Salman Pak" (Iraq) kde se ucili na plne fungujicim Boing 707 podrezavat hrdla posadky letadla stejne jako to udelali Sep 11 v NY> Klikni> 
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aa

16. 5. 2003 20:27
Re: Teroriste
SORRY, prenosem na server se porouchali vsechny hyperlink a format psaneho textu..
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Krakokos CDN

16. 5. 2003 18:41
Jo ? Teroristi zase vozili
Tak to je moc dobre , Zidi a USA maj z toho radost .
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