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Irák chystá pro OSN antraxový účet
Irák předloží OSN novou zprávu o zásobách nervového plynu VX a antraxu. Bagdád dosud tvrdil, že biologické či chemické zbraně nemá. Podle zbrojních inspektorů bude těžké zjistit, jak s nimi Irák, kterému USA hrozí úderem, naložil. Snahy Washingtonu o válku odmítly arabské země a turecký parlament.
Litujeme, ale tato diskuse byla uzavřena a již do ní nelze vkládat nové příspěvky.
Děkujeme za pochopení.
Děkujeme za pochopení.
V Max
4. 3. 2003 14:55
To je zvlastni, ze kdyz napisu hromadu kravin bez logiky a smyslu,tak se hned najde dost hnupu,kteri to musi odkejvat. Je radost ovladat stado.
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hlupec
4. 3. 2003 15:09
Re:
zvlášť ten pocit bejt prvním beranem po pásákovi a psech ........
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martina
4. 3. 2003 11:26
A proc dalsi ucet?
a nemel nahodou tohle Irak napsat do te tisice strankove zpravy, co nedavno predlozil OSN? Takze Bush mel vlastne pravdu, kdyz rekl, ze je ta zprava neuplna a ze si Irak dela z OSN legraci, co? Pry na tom Bush je na stiru s inteligenci-se rika. No, zda se, ze porad lip, nez nekteri prispevatele tady....
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hlupec
4. 3. 2003 15:10
Re: A proc dalsi ucet?
.... vyjímečně jednou zase máte skutečně pravdu, vážená přispěvatelko
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Anonym
4. 3. 2003 11:03
Irák chystá pro OSN antraxový účet
, Vidim nadpis a samozrejme cely zvedavy, kolik toho Sadam nema sem hned letim a co najdu? juraska, slak ho tref hnupa.....
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jurasek
3. 3. 2003 23:32
david=nasilnik plus potencialni mucitel.....
ale jestli jsem necim posedlej, pak rozhodne chuti vykynozit takovou svoloc jako jses ty.
---------------------------------------------mne je uplne jasne, ze jsi nasilnik.....nedavno to byly sliby koncetracniho tabora, kde mne chces mucit, ted je to kynozeni (ale nevim, co to je...jaky mas puvod, z oravy nebo wasserpolsky?.....ja vim, ze cestina ti musela vzdy delat problemy v zivote, jak mluvis anglicky, se ani nechci dovedet.........mozna je lepsi spanelstina pro tebe, myslim ta zakladni, tak 500 slov ti postaci/to je vcetne spojek, predpon, vzdychu a jineho/)........myslim, ze tvi rodice si pekne oddychli, kdyz umreli hanbou z tebe.....
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David
3. 3. 2003 23:10
Jak se pozna pako?
To je jednoduchy. Po ovoci, jako strom. Zaskocil jsem si na postu a kdyz jsem se vratil, musel jsem se zase zasmat nad tou tvoji ubohosti jurasku. Ty jses tak malinkatej cervicek, ze to ani sam nevis. Porad stejny, je to fakt zbytecny se opakovat. Ty vis vsechno. Jestli chodim do kostela, nebo ne, jestli mam informace z foxu nebo odkud. Ty hlupacku ctyrbarevnej, ty vis PRD. Ja na ty tvoje zvasty pisu jenom proto, ze me vadi, ze tu lidi doslova oblbujes a pak se za tebe postavi "tabor" stejne vygumovanejch trpajzliku jako Pilat nebo Sidlo a papouskujou co hlava konska zrovna ve sve soucasne nenavisti k lidem vyprodukovala.
Mimochodem moc v tech tvych "paste and copy" toho k veci neni a klidne jsi toho mohl napsat min. Smrdelo by to uplne stejne ty ho***** bozi. Jeste posledni vec ty hnupe vopruzenej. Ja jsem cerpal z Federace americkych vedcu, kterou podporuje pres 50 nositelu Nobelovy ceny. Tak si aspon nech svoje pritroubly a pubertacky zastydly poznamky a bez uz si skocit do Gangy nebo kamkoliv jinam. Jses opravdu na tyhle planete dost prebytecnej se svoji vecnou nenavisti a nemocnou prechytralosti
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jurasek
3. 3. 2003 23:26
Re: Jak se pozna pako?
kamarade, zadna posta, to muzes oblbovat prodavacku v jednom z tech dollar store, kde nakupujes.......nezamestnanost, hochu, nezamestnanost.....proto to preskolovani na balzamovace, proto ty prislizle nabidky slev na pohreb a zabezpeceni posledniho odpocinku vcetne splynuti se zemi.....jenomze ja na to neskocim.........ty bys mne mozna jeste zohavil na te me posledni ceste do nebes......a tech 50 vedcu, poslouchej, jestli jsou vsichni absolventi chattanooga universtity online, tak asi vis, co si tak o tom myslim.........jinak, jako kazdy slusny clovek, predloz link, ne nejake kostelni pamflety zasplichane sadlem z hambacu.......
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jurasek
3. 3. 2003 22:05
memo cast. 1
Memo to Jess Helms from InfoTimes. Note excerpt from US Army War College report that no evidence exists to support US claims that Iraq used gas on the Kurds.
I continue to make inquiry into the situation in Iraq, as it is likely to brew up into another crisis one of these days when the US Army War College has no choice but to conclude that Iraq is not hiding any weapons of mass destruction -- or if they are, they are so well hidden that nobody is going to find them. As you know, I'm sure, the warhawks in the United States will continue to insist that the embargo remain in place no matter what, and there will be assertions from around the world that we have not been acting in good faith. As you also know, I believe there are serious questions regarding our behavior toward Iraq that go back further. You would agree, I think, that at the very least our State Department gave a "green light" to Saddam Hussein to go into Kuwait in August 1990. The more I read of the events of the period, the more I believe history will record that the Gulf War was unnecessary, perhaps even that Saddam Hussein was willing to retreat back to his borders, but our government decided we preferred the war to the status quo ante.
In my previous correspondence with you on this matter, I had been in a quandary about the state of our relations with aghdad during that critical period. In the months immediately preceding the "green light" given by our Ambassador, April Glaspie, a number of your Senate colleagues including ob Dole had traveled to aghdad, met with Saddam, and found him to be a head of state worthy of support. Even Sen. Howard Metzenbaum [D-OH], a Jewish liberal and staunch supporter of Israel, gave him a seal of approval. What disturbs me even now, Jesse, is that these meetings occurred after the Senate Foreign elations committee had accused Iraq of using poison gas against its own people, i.e., the Kurds. Like all other Americans, in recent years I had assumed that what I read in the papers was true about Iraq gassing its own people. Once the war drums again began beating last November, I decided to read up on the history, and found Iraq denied having used gas against its own people. Furthermore, I heard that a Pentagon investigation at the time had also turned up no hard evidence of Saddam gassing his own people.
This is serious stuff, because the US Army War College tells us that 1.4 million Iraqi civilians have died as a result of the sanctions, which is 3,000 times more than the number of Kurds who supposedly died of gassing at the hands of Saddam. Many of my old Cold Warrior friends practically DEMAND that we not lift the sanctions because if Saddam would gas his own people, he would gas anyone. Now I have come across the 1990 Pentagon report, published just prior to the invasion of Kuwait. Its authors are Stephen C. Pelletiere, Douglas V. Johnson II and Leif . osenberger, of the Strategic Studies Institute of the U.S. War College at Carlisle, Pennsylvania. The report is 93 pages, but I append here only the passages having to do with the aforementioned issue:
Iraqi Power and U.S. Security in the Middle East Excerpt, Chapter 5 U.S. SECUITY AND IAQI POWE
Introduction. Throughout the war the United States practiced a fairly benign policy toward Iraq. Although initially disapproving of the invasion, Washington came slowly over to the side of aghdad. oth wanted to restore the status quo ante to the Gulf and to reestablish the relative harmony that prevailed there before Khomeini began threatening the regional balance of power. Khomeini's revolutionary appeal was anathema to both aghdad and Washington; hence they wanted to get rid of him. United by a common interest, Iraq and the United States restored diplomatic relations in 1984, and the United States began to actively assist Iraq in ending the fighting. It mounted Operation Staunch, an attempt to stem the flow of arms to Iran. It also increased its purchases of Iraqi oil while cutting back on Iranian oil purchases, and it urged its allies to do likewise. All this had the effect of repairing relations between the two countries, which had been at a very low ebb.
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jurasek
3. 3. 2003 22:06
Re: memo cast. 2
In September 1988, however -- a month after the war had ended -- the State Department abruptly, and in what many viewed as a sensational manner, condemned Iraq for allegedly using chemicals against its Kurdish population. The incident cannot be understood without some background of Iraq's relations with the Kurds. It is beyond the scope of this study to go deeply into this matter; suffice it to say that throughout the war Iraq effectively faced two enemies -- Iran and the elements of its own Kurdish minority. Significant numbers of the Kurds had launched a revolt against aghdad and in the process teamed up with Tehran. As soon as the war with Iran ended, Iraq announced its determination to crush the Kurdish insurrection. It sent Republican Guards to the Kurdish area, and in the course of this operation - according to the U.S. State Department -- gas was used, with the result that numerous Kurdish civilians were killed. The Iraqi government denied that any such gassing had occurred. Nonetheless, Secretary of State Schultz stood by U.S. accusations, and the U.S. Congress, acting on its own, sought to impose economic sanctions on aghdad as a violator of the Kurds' human rights.
Having looked at all of the evidence that was available to us, we find it impossible to confirm the State Department's claim that gas was used in this instance. To begin with there were never any victims produced. International relief organizations who examined the Kurds -- in Turkey where they had gone for asylum -- failed to discover any. Nor were there ever any found inside Iraq. The claim rests solely on testimony of the Kurds who had crossed the border into Turkey, where they were interviewed by staffers of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
We would have expected, in a matter as serious as this, that the Congress would have exercised some care. However, passage of the sanctions measure through the Congress was unusually swift -- at least in the Senate where a unanimous vote was secured within 24 hours. Further, the proposed sanctions were quite draconian (and will be discussed in detail below). Fortunately for the future of Iraqi-U.S. ties, the sanctions measure failed to pass on a bureaucratic technicality (it was attached as a rider to a bill that died before adjournment).
It appears that in seeking to punish Iraq, the Congress was influenced by another incident that occurred five months earlier in another Iraqi-Kurdish city, Halabjah. In March 1988, the Kurds at Halabjah were bombarded with chemical weapons, producing a great many deaths. Photographs of them Kurdish victims were widely disseminated in the international media. Iraq was blamed for the Halabjah attack, even though it was subsequently brought out that Iran too had used chemicals in this operation, and it seemed likely that it was the Iranian bombardment that had actually killed the Kurds.
Thus, in our view, the Congress acted more on the basis of emotionalism than factual information, and without sufficient thought for the adverse diplomatic effects of its action. As a result of the outcome of the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq is now the most powerful state in the Persian Gulf, an area in which we have vital interests. To maintain an uninterrupted flow of oil from the Gulf to the West, we need to develop good working relations with all of the Gulf states, and particularly with Iraq, the strongest.
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jurasek
3. 3. 2003 21:59
nasemu orlovi, pohrebnimu agentovi
Memo to Jess Helms from InfoTimes. Note excerpt from US Army War College report that no evidence exists to support US claims that Iraq used gas on the Kurds.
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You would agree, I think, that at the very least our State Department gave a "green light" to Saddam Hussein to go into Kuwait in August 1990
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Having looked at all of the evidence that was available to us, we find it impossible to confirm the State Department's claim that gas was used in this instance
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As a result of the outcome of the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq is now the most powerful state in the Persian Gulf, an area in which we have vital interests. To maintain an uninterrupted flow of oil from the Gulf to the West, we need to develop good working relations with all of the Gulf states, and particularly with Iraq, the strongest
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tady mas americkou verzi tech, kteri o tom neco vi, ne tvoje obvykle zdroje jako fox nebo nedelni modlitebni radovanky pri barbeque, kde mistni milice vam rozdava pamflety po vasem dukladnem promodleni.........
co se tyce meho odchodu z toho sveta, to si zorchestruji sam.......mam v umyslu zesnout na brezich gangy, kde v te dobe budu zit, pokud mozno nahy.......muj pohreb obstaraji mistni lide, spali mne na padrt (zadne odflaknuti, jak je mistnim zvykem, kdy potom v ganze plavou kusy palcu, zeber, usi a jine lidkse nezive nechutnosti) za zvuku modlitebnich zvonku a bubinku a chantovani.......muj popel splyne s rekou........zda se mi, ze jedes na bok nejakou pohrebni agenturu.....vsak vloni tam byl pekny pruser kousek od tveho bydliste, mrtoly, ktere byly urceny ke spaleni, nedbaly pohrebak pohazoval volne po pozemku patricimu pohrebnimu ustavu...na par hektarech se tam takto poflakovalo okolo 80 nahlodanych neboztiku.....nastesti nejaky lokal sel na houby a svalil se pres nejake........na mne komisi nevydelas, premlouvej sve spolumodlitebcany........mne jenom tak nenachutas na nejake slevy, abych skoncil nekde pohozeny a nedobalzamovany.....
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romis
3. 3. 2003 21:14
pro znudeneho Gigera
Az ted jsem se vsiml ze ti chybi interpunkcni znamenka ,coz znamena ze jsi nekde v Americe sedis u pocitace ,hrozne se nudis a tak do neho busis ty svoje provokace.Zbohem nezajem.
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jurasek
3. 3. 2003 19:34
par centu na vycpani bushe
Protestoval jsi ty kdyz Irak pouzil ZHN proti Kurdum?
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zajimave, ze vychazi najevo, jak to vlastne s halabdzou vsechno bylo.........iran i irak pouzili bojove chemicke latky, byl to vsak iran, ktery uverejnil fotografie mrtvych.....osn hlasovalo okamzite o teto udalosti a obvinilo irak, zdalipak vite, chrabri pocitacnici, kdo vetoval prijeti rezoluce odsuzujici irak? no prece us of a!!!!!!!!!!
neni vubec prokazano, kdo pouzil plyn na ty chudaky.....jak vsichni vime, tedy aspon ti s nejakou zakladni znalosti fyziky, vnejsi okolnosti maji vliv ne disporzi......bush je jedna stara hloupa kur**, kdyz tvrdi, ze saddam pouzil bojove latky na vlastni lidi......pokud by tomu veril, nakonec to bylo pod jeho tatikem, kdy se o tomto hlasovalo v osn.....jak rikam, cely rod bushu je silne dementni, tento potomek, nezvoleny president, by mel skoncit v smithsonian muzeu jako exemplar absolutni imbecility......jsem ochoten prispet taxidermistum na jeho vycpani, ne moc, jasne, ale par centu jako projev dobre vule (at prodaji jeho ranc na to vycpani)....
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David
3. 3. 2003 21:21
Re: par centu na vycpani bushe
neni vubec prokazano, kdo pouzil plyn na ty chudaky.....jak vsichni vime, tedy aspon ti s nejakou zakladni znalosti fyziky, vnejsi okolnosti maji vliv ne disporzi......
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He who believes in his own perfection is the biggest fool of all.
Halabja had a population of about 80,000 people who was predominantly Kurdish and had sympathised with Iran during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s. Troops from the Kurdish Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) entered Halabja on 15th March 1988, accompanied by Iranian revolutionary guards. The Iraqi CW attack began early in the evening of March 16th, when a group of eight aircraft began dropping chemical bombs; the chemical bombardment continued all night. The Halabja attack involved multiple chemical agents -- including mustard gas, and the nerve agents SARIN, TABUN and VX. Some sources report that cyanide was also used.
Ja jsem ochoten prispet vyrazne vic na konecne reseni s aroganty a nafoukanci a hlupaky tveho razeni. Bush me vrasky nedela, ale demagogie, zaslepenost, lzi, nafoukanost, preziravost a celkova slaba mysl, kterou tu ukazujes prave ty je nebezpecim pro svet mnohem vetsi. S chuti ti zaplatim celou kremaci, kdyz se konecne dobrovolne picnes 
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